benefit44 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

We (the broke ass fishermen) wouldn't be broke if the fucking processors didn't screw us over every year. They can afford to pay us at least a buck a pound, but no they're paying us 68 cents. Fuck this pebble mine bullshit. It shouldn't even be a debate. I live in oregon and we fucked up the Columbia river doing the same type of bullshit. Fuck the mine.

Carlimongrel1910 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

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pukaman2000 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Oh, the mineral part is quite true. The contamination comes from the "industry" that we are talking about, and this film is wanting to stop. Hawaii does have some exports, such as fish (Large fish farms off the coast that nobody talks about) Water (distilled deep salt water is a hit in Japan) Algee (spirilina) and tourism. The tourism is not to come and see a metropolis, but to enjoy nature and the waves. Pakalolo is a money crop anywhere, even Alaska. You lose your land if you are caught.

metallogeny (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

This is a lie! All mechanized activities are fully permitted and reclaimed and available for public review. Because you are ignorant, you must resort to fabrication and extrapolation.

metallogeny (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Hawaii is hardly uncontaminated. Hawaii is 100% dependent on minerals and 100% dependent on someone else, far away to produce these minerals for them. Hawaii's number one product are tourist trinkets. Hawaii's number one export is pakalolo. Hawaii is a playground for corporate chiefs. This is no record to be proud of.

pukaman2000 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

There is a difference and a vicious cycle here. First the Corporation makes promises, then with the permits, they start, then when they make profit they invest it in DEREGULATION lobbying rather than ENVIRONMENT. You fail to say that those same resources will be there tomorrow... so there is no rush to get them... they will be there. Now people pay big money to live in UNCONTAMINATED places like Hawaii. Not because they are fancy, because they are pure.

redsalmo76 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

The test drilling (without permits I might add) is already doing enough damage. google ak trecking and find the test site photos, see for yourself, and extrapolate..Vote YES on Ballot Measure 4

ZSparkman (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

We've been very lucky in Alaska that we haven't had any accidents with mines. The reason that I'm concerned about this particular mine is that Northern Dynasties is owned by some of the same people that caused Montana's Zortman-Landusky open-pit mine fiasco.

metallogeny (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Who knows? That's why we have regulatory oversight and enforcement. Fisherman have done the same thing to their own fisheries. It is an indisputable fact that commercial fisherman slaughter millions of fish every year and that they have destroyed entire fisheries by their greed. Can you name one fishery in Alaska that has been negatively impacted by mining? Cominco (Red Dog) and Kinross (Ft. Knox) have factually improved downstream fish habitat. Fishing and mining together is the answer.

ZSparkman (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)

Oh, so you mean to say that you don't believe that this Northern Dynasties will finish its business here, Possibly causing major damage, and then hide behind the government of Canada, forcing taxpayers to cover the expenses of cleanup, like many mines owned by foreign countries have done before it?